Transcript of: Transformation of global society
Ervin Laszlo
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Thank you, Professor. Effort and thank you. The high association for inviting me to be here with you. I must say, I've had on a very brief acquaintance with the Baha'i community through my work at the United Nations, where, you know, we have a very active, very highly regarded liaison office. I've had the chance and the privilege off participating in a few of the meetings at the U. N. But I find even in this brief acquaintance that the goals that you pursue, the names that you have are very much in tune with the ideals I have, these dreams I have. And so that's when I am with you. I feel less alone was very often moving In international circles, people are very much stuck in the state of school, very much stuck in trying to preserve what there is and afraid to look ahead. And even if they see, I had they pretend that there is nothing wrong. Yet there is plenty that there is wrong and this plenty that he can do about it. And I think your community worldwide and wherever the exists is on the few groups of people who represent the positive science which can move us from one age into the next. Now I cannot pretend to put what I have in mind into the context of your thinking. I don't know enough about it, but I would like anyway, to begin with a few passages, we struck me as being particularly relevant to the kind of concerns, very deep concerns that I have, which I would like to share with you. So let me, first of all, just threw some passages that you must know by heart. But let me just start to recall this as a preface as a overall framework for what I would like to say in that little leaflet, that wrong page that has been this attributed in your registration package. That is the following statement and I will read just a few sentences from it. It talks about the principle of oneness, and it says that this principle of oneness implies an organic change in the structure off present day society Change such as the world has not yet experienced. It cause it that the consummation off human evolution an evolution that has had its earliest beginnings in the birth of family line, its subsequent development in the achievement of tribal solidarity, leading in turn to the constitution of the city state and expanding later into the institution of independent and sovereign nations. This process, it is said, is not only necessary but inevitable that its realization Isfahan, fast approaching. Let me not read any further since is there behind the in front of you and that you know it, this text much more than I do. How about these? Couple off ideas have struck me very deeply. Let me supplement this with a quotation like rice from Shaggy offended that is given in the booklet off in a monograph off Dr Danish on the Violence Free Society. And he quotes show G f nd Let me just read that two sentences for you also belong. Ages of infancy and childhood, through which the human race had to pass, have receded into the background. Humanity is now experiencing the commotions. Invariable associative is the most terrible on stage off its evolution the stage of adolescence, then the institution city of Hue. And it's the human speech there climates and must gradually be superseded by the calmness, the wisdom and the maturity. That character at the stage of manhood. It is my dream and my hope that we can work and eventually achieve this stage of manhood, stage of human hood, which would become and peaceful and unite all of the peoples of the Earth in a global family. But I want to underline to you, and this is what my talk is going to be about this phrase within this remarkable sentence that we are now experiencing the most turbulent stage of human evolution. It is true, and I'm afraid it will become more and more true in the next 10 years or 15 years. From all the evidence that I have from all the international documents, all the plants, all the strategies that I have seen in the U. N. And outside. I cannot avoid the conclusion that the present system and I'm talking about the international socioeconomic technical industrial system. This system is heading into a crisis toward a watershed, that there is no turning back. But I don't want to preach doomsday when I say this. I don't mean that this is the end of the road. What I mean to say is that it's the end of an age, and I hope that this is the end of the age of adolescence and it could be the beginning of the age of manhood. But for that we have to act. And we have to act already because if there is one on Lee one word with which about which I would express some thought is that this one word off inevitable off inevitably reaching the next stage. Perhaps when these words were written, the tremendous power that humankind has unleashed were not known could not have been known. You could not have been known that now they can kill ourselves off on all other species in the world with a push. A few buttons is not known. It was not known, but that we now know that we can practically destroy the life support systems off this earth, this planet which is our habitat, which is our whole. So what I want to impress on you is not to put blind face into the coming off the next age, but to work for it because there is an alternative address for alternate that we won't make it. How, where I want to point out to you what we might expect as we move toward the 19 nineties and into the 19 nineties and the choices we have to make but prospects with your face because we're not heading toward an epoch which is predetermined, they're not destined either one day or another. I believe we have choices, and the choices will be increasingly up to us to make. This is my main thing. The choices will be able to be exercised at a time when the present system this age of adolescence crumbles around us, as I believe it will. Now, this fact that we can make a choice in the midst off a crisis. This fact is not only a hunch. It is now a well documented, well established scientific insight. Applying to biology, applying to physical and chemical systems. Applying for the evolution of the universe is a hole I would not want to give. You hear a lecture on the theories of change in evolution. Just want to remind you of a few things. The idea that evolution is screws and it's gradual has by and large been abandoned even in the life sciences. Very recently, on Lee as a benign as of about 1980 that this turnabout, his calm about has has occurred. The idea that knocked or unknown facets sultan that nature does not make leaps, which was a name. 10 it off, Damn, it has gone out the window. In fact, now we talk about punctuated equilibrium are solitary versions off the damn it Norbit. Darkness thes is, in other words, that when evolution occurs, macro evolution, the creation of a new species and in society also, they're talking, in a sense, about the creation of a new species. This comes about when the existing dominant species becomes destabilized and then a small up till then, almost dormant or peripheral species can offer sudden come, spread and take over. Make the analogy, make the analogy even Mr Behind Group May. But there will come a time, and I'm convinced it will be before the end of this century, when the dominant systems institutions of today will crumble when those peripheral movements that are today suppressed and persecuted will have the day. And we must hope that the eye movements such as yours which will carry the day and not inhuman and and dictatorial, and terrorists that departments and this is why we must repair already in another facet coming from systems theory, since chairman has mentioned that I was interested in this area in a number of books under the Like myself company conclusion that no system evolves in the absence of a restaurant, a fluctuation, a very major fluctuations, sometimes called the mega fluctuation. This fluctuation, which comes either from the environment or is generated by the sea, must destabilize the existing corrective self stabilizing mechanisms of that system so that the system that can move into a new mode into a new kind of existence into a so called new dynamic regime. Again, I want at large on this. If you have questions about it, I'll be glad to apply to them. But the evidence that this is occurring in the universe at large that this can be reproduced in the laboratory. This is increasing again. Since the mid seventies, the laboratory experiments have been coming one after another the late seventies. A Nobel Prize is given for discoveries, really a precaution. We are now facing a new ship in our ways of thinking about change. Change is not smooth. It's not grateful. It's sudden it moves through crisis. It can be catastrophic, but it can move. Tow us also to the next plateau. The next level off evolution and it must be our hope. They change, Apply to human society will not be catastrophic but will move us to the next plateau which represents the maturity off our species. Let me move to a little bit more empirical, Professor. So let me tell you why. I believe that we are approaching such a watershed we have had in this epoch in this sanctuary periods of war periods off a financial collapse. We all said efforts of progress of corporation and of stability. But if you have to draw a balance sheet, we would find that the trouble periods are accelerating. The instabilities are mounting. And if the trends continue, you may reach the point of no return. We might be reaching Siri's off interconnected crisis in which one being feeds into another which no Marshall plan, no Apollo mission. No effort made by the present administrative and political systems could be a help could prevent from occurring. The stakes are now was the highest that we have ever confronted. We have now 4.55 5,000,000,000 people by 1990 we will have 5,000,000. By the year 2000. We should have six and 1\/2 1,000,000,000 people, according to media and projections of the U. N. We are at the present time concerned that the extra pressures put up by these many people in a tribally oriented society global society. By that I mean nation states that are inward looking, that are holding on to the sovereignty as though it waas God, given nothing else existed that talk about interdependence. But here they're neighbors and try only to really one another to the own advantage that in this epoch we may find ourselves in a situation off a breakdown, and they are hearing that this would lead to a war to a confrontation in which nuclear arms would be used. This is a possibility, but I want to emphasize to you, although it may sound very heretical, that and excessive fascination almost amusing this almost in the clinical sense with the nuclear specter can blind us another factor. The factor that if we don't kill ourselves off, the continuation of the present trends will lead us into a breakdown. It's not enough to do away this nuclear arms. Of course, you must do that because the presence of nuclear arms is an ever present danger in this support, it will remain a danger in the next plateau of civilization also. But we must not be blinded by hearing the nuclear flash. To the extent that we disregard the trends, the macro trends, the world's problematic, which heads us straight into a situation which would be very, very difficult to master, which I think we will not be able to master with our present institutions on the surface, that let me go ahead now a little bit in time. The 19 nineties, I think, will be a period of mounting tensions and self reinforcing crisis. These crisis will bring about social undress, political course on all that wisdom they become about despite the information off our economists, certain breed of economists equilibrium economists that all these Akka Calabria are temporary in nature and yourself curing that. All they have to do is let the market operate and it will take care of all our problems. This in fact, is one of the most dangerous kind of beliefs because it encourages in action. It says, Let things go on the way they are, they'll take care of themselves and it signs of an economic recovery can give us the false sense of illusion that all things are all right. But look at the global picture there, far from all right, we are going to have in the last 25 years of this century about 2.23 1,000,000,000 people, almost two and 1\/4 1,000,000,000 new people entering the boat. That's the increments in human population. According to all population projections. This is the largest increments humanity has ever had and possibly the largest that it will ever have afterwards. Even if you don't kill ourselves off, even if you could maintain the present system, the next increment, the year 4025 would be lesser because there wouldn't be so many young people. The age distribution would be different. These people are coming into the world in the poor areas. By the year 2000 if present trends continue, over 80% of the world's population would live in what we now call the third World. The fastest population increases are occurring in the poorest regions. They would need an infusion of capital infusion off education and skills, a creation of infrastructure and jobs off a tremendous magnitude. We know what is needed, For example, the latest projections of the Food and Agriculture Organization. That deal says we would have to printable, multiplied by a factor of five investment in food production in the developed countries. Similar projections apply. When you talk about health, you talk about employment. Talk about industria distribution, et cetera. There are no signs that anything like this can happen. In fact, per capita food production has been decreasing by 10% over the last decade. In Africa, it is decreasing in many countries. In Asia and Latin America, more and more contests are becoming dependent on food from the outside. And when they do so, they're becoming dependent on two things on the availability of food and on the money with which to buy it. Now both will be impossible to have in the coming years. Why, first of all, they get for more indebted this country's so they will not have capital do not already have capital. They might be facing a series of bankruptcies and secondly, the amount of food that could be traded in the world market is diminishing. The latest projections, which came to light on Lee in some very highly qualified professional computer I studies off US agriculture in a meeting of the Club of Rome about a month ago in Budapest, show that by the year 2000 the U. S. Will not have any food to export. Cute a number of reasons. Price of energy, the paving under off but productive land, the erosion of topsoil, the increasing needs for fertilizer at the mechanization and so on. It is quite likely that we will not be able to feed six and 1\/2 1,000,000,000 people by eternal essential, and this is only one of the many presents. The problem. Let me give you a brief scenario off how things might go. I hope that they don't. On the other hand, in a sense, I hope that also some kind of breakdown is coming because I do not see a possibility off creating and you work a better world unless the present institutions suffer. It's kind of this solution. I don't think you can build a new world before the old one has disappeared, and now we are in a global situation and this has to happen global, and it probably will happen global. Let me give you just even if its might seem a little bit boring. On the one hand, if you're not interested in finance issue, are it might seem too dramatic. But anyway, let me give you a little scenario. Think of it that you are now. In the late 19 eighties, you will find that a number of Latin American countries, let's say, Brazil, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Venezuela cannot anymore repay their obligations. They have decided to repudiate the debts we get together. They form a common front. This is being discussed already, and they say that this is all right of sovereign nations. They have such domestic problems that they cannot simply afford to export capital. Brewer people are coming into their cities and the cities are already the breaking point. You know the projections for the big cities. Mexico City 31,000,000 people by the year 2000 now has probably 15,000,000 or so. There's no way Mexico City can provide this water and sanitation, not to mention power and jobs and other services more than 18 or 20,000,000 and it will come in a few years. South Paulo, Monos Iris. All the cities are going to tremendous proportions elsewhere in the world is also. But let me give you this scenario. The rural areas fall into poverty even more than they are today. The government to save their necks. That is, for a few more years. You must take some immediate measures. The first and only thing they can do is trying to use whatever capital they have to quell the domestic undressed by creating investments in their own countries and not exporting the capital in the form of repayment of the past debts. Now the other countries, When this happens, I likely to follow suit. And there are several dozen countries that are facing bankruptcy in the world. They also Eastern Europe, but the majority amnesia in Africa. In addition, of course, to let in America, they are not likely to find themselves in a position off facing armed forces to force them to pay back there. That's why, because one country, perhaps you can invade or use a proper to him. You can conduct the rescue mission. You can't do this with two dozen three dozen four dozen countries. Marines won't help. So in the early 19 nineties, it's quite conceivable that we will have a massive financial breakdown in the world. This we'll have serious political consequences in the countries involved. It will have serious political consequences in the creditor countries, not the least in the U. S. Because they've been enormous sums of money involved. The banks will want to have the government to build the mountain again. It's very likely that the government will not increase public spending to such an extent as to bail out Chase Manhattan or Morgan Guaranty Trust, saying that you gave the money in the first place. Now you have to shoulder the consequences. The funds available get into too much technicalities where the funds available to the International Monetary Fund. No matter what you read in the papers, it will be enough for the next two years. Even if you increase. If you double, that will be enough for three years. The amounts off the sons are so massive and increasing so recklessly what I needed that simply there not enough. There's not enough there to supply this. You would have to turn up into a humanitarian club in order for them to supply even a portion off the needed money. And yet I come visit very frequently the Middle East. I come recently from Kobe. It's, for example, and in all my discussions there, I see no indications of them turning into a human humanitarian club that they are very much aware of the fact if you listen to them that they are in a very poor and type situation that happened to have the largest per capita income in the world. But they say, Well, this is false because what you are doing, they're selling a nonrenewable resource, which I'm going to run out, and there were bending, and that's actually very good question. Where will they be? Because there is a real distinction between development and economic growth. The have economic growth, but no development wants. The money drives up, they'll be back where they were before the money started coming in. Except it's a lot of things thrusting on their necks. So I don't think open help. I think in fact, opportunity might suffer in the process. I don't think the European community can help. I don't think the U. S. Will help Soviet Union certainly won't help. So we will have a situation in which there will be major political unrest, the political spectrum. It's shift from left to right rather rapidly. New leaders will come and make their appearance, and they will preach the doctrines of national unity, possibly by trying to distance themselves from the country's on which they were dependent. You can have any one of a dozen scenarios. None of them look very good in this case. However, the interdependence off the system is such that the breakdown is going to create a crisis off worldwide proportions, hyperinflation very likely to occur almost in all occurrences. Most contest hold older reserve caresses. You know, Major money's in dollars. If the U. S. Is going to bring more money to cover the needs, the value of the dollar is going to go down is doing well now. But this is not yet in the face of the situation which I'm painting to you now. There could be extremism of all kinds. If we are lucky, then a war will not erupt the world with a totally useless. Under such circumstances, you cannot fight poverty, his bombs, these situation I could paint it to you more deeply and I don't want to take that much time for that would be chaotic. There would be massive migrations. You know, the migration in West Africa that differed about recently. One country decided to expose it. People were or were not with their own nationals. This could happen elsewhere in Asia, elsewhere in Africa, like in America, we could have people in the millions moving across borders again. It's not likely that any kind of peacekeeping force would be able to maintain order. See what happens in a small country like Lebanon when you try to create order and there is internal undressed in this internal division and internal divisions are going to grow. So they reach a point, probably by the late 19 nineties, where the political system, the techno industrial system, the financial system as we know it is it right now, people, if they're honest, tell you we're dealing with this thinks that this is very likely. They don't tell you because this looks like a doomsday prophecy. It looks like the end of the world. But I'm telling you, and I think that this public particularly I can see it. His confidence that this is only the end of one world. It is probably very likely the end of a new world, and this new world, with the ideas such as you have, could be a much better world than what we have. It's interesting also that this kind of breakdown, if you make a linear projections from the from the present to the future, will occur around the turn of the century, also the turn of the millennium. It's also psychological factor involved. You know how much we are addicted to making New Year's resolutions that's on the court. One year and a new decade comes the international community undergoes a similar kind off self delusion. If you like a nothing that not all the solutions are kept, but I think you know. But we adopt international development strategists. Starting in the 19 sixties, Number 97. Now we have the third development strategy in 19 eighties. Each one becomes more illusory than next now. It's very like that when we reached the late years of the 19 nineties and they're heading toward US psychological watershed, the year 2000 and detentions climbing to this point that this will accelerate that should change and transformation, which should at the new millennium with something else. Don't forget. The human costs could be very high, and I will speak about it the moment to try to minimize that. But tensions will be high. If you're lucky, we won't kill ourselves in the process. But certainly large numbers of people will be exposed. Deprivation. So what will happen then? But here is where I don't hold an inevitable inevitability pieces. Here is where I say we have choices and the choices very much up to us already. To me, I would like to draw for you now, to scenario very briefly and then in the last 10 minutes give you some idea, some part of what we could do today to choose, the better one of us. To make it more interesting. I'll call one of them the apocalypse scenario and the other one the Phoenix scenario. I'll take the apocalypse scenario. Here we are around the turn of the century. We have small colonies now, because people have moved out of the big cities, there's no way they can get services or employment or our food. They're moving out wherever there is a possibility off, feeding themselves possibility of creating communities that have some measure of sustainability and self reliant where they are, they can communicate with one another. One of the remarkable passage off communications technologists under there, Not energy intensive. They're small. They're getting you because practically everywhere available and chance aside and everything goes down the drain, it would still have a workable communication. Satellites still have radios, and we will be able to communicate with one another. So the moon's off people getting in touch, even over large distances. I think we'll be there always, as I had, provided that there's no nuclear catastrophe. So they get together. They compare. Knows it, turn out that some off these colonies have in their possessions. Stockpiles of Iran Leap Iran. I don't some may have highly skilled people and unscrupulous people. Other stuff. It's more genuine, honest, humanistic. Under the circumstances, there will be power place. It's very well possible. But the more organized, the more power hungry will exploit the situation and you create new networks of dominance. You can spell out the scenario some detail in my new book, which is just about republished. I do so the fact is that by means off coercion by means of rhetoric by means of communication, which is a neutral technology which can be used for good or for evil. But all technology, uh, we could create a world a world controlled by power centers in which the majority of mankind is subject. This world chipped. The dreams of the 1000 rewrite could be a possibility. Could the possibility to let it happen? You cannot prepare. It would be very difficult to reverse. Wants to get to that point where there are large power centers where people are forced to obey difficult to break out of it. You know, we know the recent terrorist regimes can be maintained if they have arms, if they have money and this could be the world could be rebuilt in such a more. If you're unlucky and if you're foolish, it would be catastrophic with tragic. But let me give you also this other scenario. The Phoenix, which I think is very close to the behind in our communication, is there. People get together, people come to a conclusion, which is also fairly frequent after the wake of catastrophe, that is better to pull together better to pursue common goals, that we should learn from the mistakes of the past, that we should cooperate if they should not be hungry for power. To the extent that we destroy our world and ourselves, we could create self reliant community who can produce their own food, can create employment for the people coming their own decisions. I think the high community a prototype for this sort of these could establish relations with one another on the basis of self reliance. Because that famous word interdependence which usually here in so called progressive circles in a very positive connotation, I'm telling you, is a very dangerous concert because interdependent on the works among the clothes, then it's equal and friendly. You're interdependent. Is your enemy better? Watch out on a few enemies more powerful than you. Being interdependent means being and slick, so I think the new world would have to be much more self reliant, local it self reliant than the one we have today. The abilities were too fast. We built it technological industrial capacities to global dimensions. Then we are psychologically and spiritually un prepared to live in a global world. We could in this world in this new scenario, decide to bury, to disassemble, defuse the major weapons. We could decide in that to put highest value on the airport element of meat on social needs, spiritually as well as physical. We could decide that they would not want to be in communication and in contact with such a strong extent people whom we cannot trust so that you could become dependent on them. We could decide that people off good face could work together and try to control their own unruly element. This could be done because there will be a new mindset. You cannot go through a crisis unchanged one of the great illusions on dangerous illusions forever. I think that you go through an upheaval at social, personal, economic or political upheaval, and you come out being pretty about the same as you were before. You don't people have changed. I've seen it after the Second World War in Europe, through that child and people came out, being different was a great tragedy in my country in Hungary that they did not have a chance to become what they wanted to become. But they came under a new form of domination so there are realistic possibilities, I think, for the Phoenix and argue, and on the basis of all the theoretical inside that unable to muster, I can tell you that groups that are now persecuted now small our power will have their day because all the centers that are repressing will be gone. The forces of domination will be gone. The heavy hand of the past have been lifted, and I don't see change coming in our lifetime in the access off such a situation. But if you're going to make the Phoenix scenario more likely than the apocalypse one, we'll have to do a number of things. And it's not necessary that all people do it. It's enough that a few centers of awareness grew up in the world, and I think the high community is an ideal center of awareness. Distributed the weather world for this kind of finish it Let me just list a few of the things that one we have to create the ability to survive. This miss not only physically survived, it does not mean a clipping yourself is guns and hand grenades. It means being able to form communities that are not dependent on the system at large that can produce their food. That can take care of the help on social needs of the people of the spiritual needs that can maintain themselves. I think we have many experiments of this kind of remarkable. This kind of experimentation is going up all over the world. We have to consciously foster this skills, knowledge, information, what it takes to be self reliant and, if necessary, self sufficient. Secondly, we have to take great care for the next generation. That said, human nature is not immutable, it strongly conditioned by political, economic patrol reality. And it would be tragic mistake if today we would brainwash or children, as education sometimes does into a mind set, which is on the way out. If you were trained up for competition for looking for the edge off, competing over your most media tribal, if he would train them for materialism, for possessiveness, for intolerance. No child is born, is exported, children equally egalitarian by nature. We trained them. He had me bring Washington into the kind of a civilization that we have created. It would be tragic if this new generation, which is being born now, which is already here as young children, if this generation would have received, would receive an education which would make it difficult for them to transit into another world which would predispose them to transit in tow. Competitive, power oriented apocalypse type off scenario instead of the cooperative and solidarity to take very much care off. Educating our children are letting them simply develop their own natural predispositions or solidarity for lack of violence. Expert on it is professor vanish, but I see. But somebody said that it is not an inherited, not a genetic. It's it's an acquired trick, the cultural. Then we have to do a number of other things as well. In addition to the human element, we have to watch out that is vital resources off the earth, which provide us with our means of survival as a species that those are not this, Ladies and gentlemen, this is a real danger that they could be destroyed. And I don't mean on a nuclear waits we could destroy Topsoil says we're doing now. Enormous amount of topsoil are being destroyed year after year, diminishing the world over. The waters are getting pollute despite a vocational reversals and success stories. But on the whole, you're endangering our waterways. The air is getting worse. Of course you know that index. It's not to mention as a drain on other matters, particularly close to our friends from Canada. All of the usable human, the usable natural resources that we have must be taken care of. And that means not only the non renewable, also the renewable resources. This perhaps a seldom discussed fact that the world's desert advance every year. Profit by an area equivalent to the size of a man is due to deforestation. Poor people cut down forests, burning fire. You can also over Graceland. The rain forests of the world could well disappear by the turn of the century if you continue cutting them down and clearing them for agriculture. The present trip. Not that it would even produce good agricultural land because the unprotected source wash away, as we have known that happened in the Amazon. So the ecological problems are very serious problems because even with the best will in the world with the best mind set in the world, we cannot feed a world in which six and 1\/2 1,000,000,000 people are so can live and satisfy the real physical needs. If we're destroying the resources which required for that, then way have to do something about defusing this nuclear threat, even if there is no nuclear war begins. But even if that is, the very presence off nuclear armaments off stock part would create a constant temptation, a constant threat to human well being. It is not enough simply to refrain from deploying an increasing number of these weapons. We would also have to start destroying them again. This would be a fact that could come into increasing prominence, as it turns out that there are no military solutions to the problems that we face the face that the problems that is our not imagined. Threats on the part of the power but really on depart off four or five 1,000,000,000 people who simply do not know how to survive have no means, perhaps on the door circumstances. We could make some steps in this direction. We would have to do so and finally and perhaps most important, can't say to the other side. Less important, we would have to prepare what you no in your face as the age of maturity of mankind. You have to start. I think I do already to preparing for this we will have to create access to the public media. We would have to create community forums, probably doing all the things that you're doing already. But don't forget that many people are not going on. Whether or not they profess the same face or not way would have to bring them into this awareness. Knowing what the alternative is, We could try to simulate this new world there many ways of doing that. We could role play. We could have a new science fiction, but the science fiction would not would not be inter galactic wars, but would be ways off managing the world which is emerging from this roast for crisis on creating the New World, we could simulate new communities. We could simulate new ways of human interaction. We could create a technologies should be simple technologists in the center. They wouldn't be capital intensive, they wouldn't cost a lot of money. And the uncomfortable part of where we now have technologists that I use a boat, almost everybody we would have to prepare for this sort of thing and our young people could very well be engaged in this. I think it's far more exciting to try to imagine what a world after this which comes very soon, which would come in 20 years, maybe come in 15 years would look like. Then, rather than escaping into the stances of science fiction, we just popped out there today. All of these things can be done in many ways of doing this. But one final point I would like to make to reiterate I mentioned it already that all off the empirical as the theoretical evidence points, the one that when you have a major upheaval, then any small change, any small modification innovation in the system within the system, which was up till then Dorland or suppressed can become amplified. In fact, one off several will become amplified. This is how species evolved this open Perry. For isil, this is what happens. Physical chemical systems went a small internal fluctuation becomes amplified and become dominant regime of the system. This is what this applicable, I think, to human society into this interdependent global society, which we haven't learned living yet that the new mutation will come about when the system dominant seizes and or small groups that are ready for creating a world of global unity will have the day. I'm sure it will be your day and I hope it will be a day of all of us.
